Few entrepreneurial journeys weave through America's most iconic
brands, rural family businesses, and groundbreaking startups like Corey Smith's
path. As a recent guest on Startups with
Stu, Smith shared his remarkable transition from Pillsbury's brand manager
(where he created Funfetti cake mix, still their #1 seller decades later) to
strategically rebuilding Heinz Ketchup's market share through NASCAR
partnerships, before walking away from his six-figure Boston career to save his
father's struggling pharmacy in rural Idaho. Alongside his wife Cindy, who left
Los Angeles behind for Idaho Falls, the Smiths built a thriving healthcare
business while Corey eventually became a pivotal angel investor in Southeast
Idaho's emerging startup ecosystem.
What makes Smith's perspective so valuable is his unique position
at the intersection of corporate America, family business ownership, and angel
investing. In this conversation with Stuart Draper, whose education technology
company Stukent grew from a $25,000 check from Smith into a platform serving
over a million students, we discover what happens when unwavering belief meets
entrepreneurial drive. From the hidden tensions of family business transitions
to what Smith describes as the brutal reality that, based on his venture
capital experience, 87% of investments fail, Smith's journey showcases both the
triumphs and scars of building businesses that matter in places where
conventional wisdom says it can't be done.
Lesson 1: Corporate Innovation Requires Strategic Positioning
After completing his MBA at BYU, Corey Smith began his career in
brand management at Pillsbury, where his innovation played a vital role in the
company's product line. His most successful project involved creating Funfetti
cake mix, which remains Pillsbury's top-selling cake mix to this day. Despite
this major achievement, Smith received minimal financial recognition—just
$2,500 in company stock that was quickly sold when the company changed hands.
This early lesson in corporate innovation showed him how challenging it could
be to monetize entrepreneurial thinking within large organizations.
Smith's career trajectory took him from Pillsbury to H.J. Heinz in
Pittsburgh, where he tackled the company's market share challenges in the
southeastern United States. Heinz Ketchup dominated markets nationwide with
over 50% share everywhere except the Southeast, where competitors Del Monte and
Hunts held strong positions. The breakthrough came when Smith championed a
sales manager's persistent recommendation to invest in NASCAR sponsorship,
which local leadership had initially dismissed. With a $15-20 million
investment in NASCAR teams and merchandise, Heinz saw its Southeast market
share climb above 50% within just three years, demonstrating that sometimes the
most effective solutions come from listening to people on the ground rather
than applying conventional corporate strategies.
Lesson 2: Family Comes Before Career Advancement
After his success at Heinz, Smith moved to Ocean Spray, managing
their single-serve beverage lines and working closely with Pepsi on joint
ventures. His corporate career was flourishing when personal circumstances
intervened—his father experienced serious health problems, including a heart
attack and prostate cancer. The family tried to sell his father's small
pharmacy in Ammon, Idaho, but found no buyers. With his father's health
declining and his parents' desire to serve a church mission before it was too
late, Smith made the difficult decision to leave his successful career and
return to Idaho.
This transition required not just professional sacrifice, but
asking his California-raised wife Cindy to relocate from Boston to rural
Idaho—a change she approached with remarkable faith and support despite the
dramatic lifestyle shift. The salary reduction from a six-figure corporate
income to running a small-town pharmacy represented a financial challenge that
required significant lifestyle adjustments for the entire family. Rather than
pursuing the conventional path of corporate advancement, Smith chose to honor
his father's legacy and support his parents' dreams, even at significant
personal cost, ultimately opening unexpected doors to business ownership and
community impact that shaped the rest of his career.
Lesson 3: Document Everything in Family Business Transitions
Taking over a family business brings unique challenges that extend
beyond typical entrepreneurship. When Smith returned to Idaho, he insisted on
properly valuing the pharmacy business at twice what his father had offered a
previous potential buyer. This decision came from a desire to prevent future
family conflicts, recognizing that even in close families, business transitions
can create friction. Smith emphasized the importance of documenting everything
with proper accounting and legal guidance to create a clear paper trail for all
transactions and equity distributions.
As the business evolved, Smith brought in his brother and
brother-in-law, gifting them 10% and another percentage of equity,
respectively. This created a true family business but later led to
disagreements during the eventual exit. Some family members questioned why they
received smaller percentages despite working similar hours, highlighting the
difference between management responsibilities and ownership risk. These
tensions required Smith to explain the distinction between operating a business
and assuming the financial risks of ownership. Despite these challenges, the
family business provided meaningful opportunities across generations, creating
powerful learning experiences and family connections that wouldn't have existed
otherwise.
Lesson 4: Be Stingy With Equity, Especially Early On
One of the most valuable lessons Smith shared came from his
observation of entrepreneurs giving away too much equity in their early stages.
He noted that debt often feels scary to new business owners, making equity seem
like an easier alternative since it doesn't require immediate repayment.
However, this decision can lead to significant regret once the business
succeeds, as founders realize how much of their future earnings they've
surrendered. Smith advised entrepreneurs to be "stingy" with equity—a
term he embraces despite its negative connotations in other contexts.
The reason is simple: what seems like a small percentage in the
early struggling days becomes enormously valuable once the business achieves
success. When coaching Stuart Draper on Stukent's formation, Smith specifically
encouraged him to carefully protect his equity position even while seeking
necessary investment capital. Smith observed that many equity disputes arise
when team members who contribute labor but not capital expect equal ownership
with those who assumed financial risk. By clearly establishing these
expectations early and documenting all equity arrangements professionally,
entrepreneurs can avoid painful conflicts while still attracting the talent and
resources they need to grow.
Lesson 5: Character Matters More Than Business Models
Smith's transition into angel investing came naturally from his
desire to support entrepreneurship in Southeast Idaho. Along with a group of
friends, he formed the Idaho Expansion Group, making three investments with the
understanding that venture investing typically sees success in only about 13%
of cases. That 13% needs to provide returns substantial enough to cover losses
from the other 87%. Of their three investments, one was a complete loss when
the founder simply gave up, stating the business was "too hard"
despite having taken investor capital. Another returned just 27 cents on the
dollar when the founder sold at a low valuation to secure personal employment
with the acquiring company. Only one—Stukent, founded by Stuart Draper—provided
the investors with a solid return.
These experiences highlighted for Smith the paramount importance
of founder character and integrity. Smith observed that many entrepreneurs make
commitments they later abandon without consequence, making trustworthiness an
increasingly rare commodity in the startup world. His investment in Stukent
began with monthly breakfast meetings at Perkins restaurant, where he helped
Draper refine his business plan for creating digital marketing education
materials. After a year and a half of these advisory sessions, Smith sent
Draper a $25,000 check with a note suggesting he quit everything else and go
all-in on his vision. This investment wasn't just about the business model, but
about Draper's passion and integrity—qualities that proved far more valuable
than financial projections.
Lesson 6: Building Relationships That Last Beyond Business
After 42 years of marriage, Corey and Cindy Smith shared insights
into what makes both personal and business relationships endure. Their
partnership demonstrates several key principles that apply equally to
entrepreneurial ventures:
- Complementary
contributions
- Each partner brings different strengths and takes responsibility for
different aspects of the shared journey
- Freedom
to pursue dreams
- Supporting each other's aspirations even when they require personal
sacrifice
- Complete
trust
- Building a foundation of reliability and integrity that withstands
challenges
- Shared
purpose
- Finding meaning in working toward common goals rather than individual
achievements
- Deep
enjoyment of connection
- Genuinely preferring each other's company and collaboration
A significant moment in their relationship came when they served a
three-year church mission together. After decades of separate daily routines
with limited time together, they suddenly found themselves working as
companions around the clock. This experience revealed how connection enhanced
their lives in ways they hadn't fully appreciated during their busy years of
career building and child-rearing. When they returned to normal life and began
drifting back into separate routines, they realized their most fulfilling time
had been when they were fully connected to a shared purpose. Smith observed
that the entrepreneurs who succeed long-term tend to build genuine connections
with their partners, employees, and customers, viewing business not merely as
transactions but as relationships.
Lesson 7: Love What You Do More Than What You Make
The entrepreneurial journey isn't primarily about business models,
funding strategies, or market opportunities—though these matter tremendously.
What Corey Smith's path from corporate America to family business to angel
investing reveals is that the entrepreneur's most valuable asset is authentic
passion for their work. As Smith put it, "If you love what you do, you
never work a day of your life." This philosophy guided his decision to
continue working in the healthcare field even after selling his ownership stake
to the third-largest long-term care company in the world.
Too many entrepreneurs chase money as their primary motivation,
following an "abundance mentality" that prioritizes financial returns
above all else. Smith observed that this approach rarely produces lasting
satisfaction or even the desired financial outcome. In contrast, entrepreneurs
who genuinely love their work tend to create value consistently, regardless of
market conditions or temporary setbacks. Smith's current role in long-term care
pharmacy illustrates this principle perfectly. Despite having sold the majority
stake in his business and having the financial freedom to retire, he continues
working because he genuinely loves the industry and serving his customers. He
described the healthcare field as "a horrible industry" and "a
horrible business" where they're "not making very much money at
all"—yet followed immediately with "and I love what I do."
Build on What Truly Matters
The seven lessons from Corey Smith's journey offer a roadmap for
entrepreneurs navigating their own path from corporate careers to business
ownership or investing. His experiences demonstrate that while strategies and
opportunities matter, the foundation of lasting success lies in authentic
passion, meaningful relationships, and unwavering integrity. These qualities
can't be faked or manufactured—they emerge from living in alignment with
genuine values.
For aspiring entrepreneurs in Southeast Idaho or anywhere else,
Smith's journey offers a powerful reminder to build businesses on a foundation
of genuine passion, strong relationships, and unwavering integrity. The
business landscape continues evolving—with remote work bringing new talent to
previously overlooked regions and creating fresh opportunities for innovation
outside traditional hubs. But amid these changes, trustworthiness remains the
rarest and most valuable commodity in business.
Are you ready to follow Corey Smith's example? Start by examining
your motivations and relationships. Ask yourself whether you're pursuing your
business for the right reasons and surrounding yourself with people of genuine
integrity. The answers to these questions may ultimately prove more valuable
than any business plan or funding strategy in determining your entrepreneurial
legacy.
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